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Post by girathon on Jan 21, 2015 13:16:01 GMT
Trying to think of a reason for JoH to suddenly switch. I know we plan to kill him today, but do you think he's a lie detector? One of the few powers I know that could explain it because I don't see what I did to completely flip his opinion.
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Post by fredsadragon on Jan 21, 2015 15:11:43 GMT
Dunno, can't think of a lie detector in Skyrim, maybe an Imperial they have a voice of the Emperor ability.
Anyway the more I think about it the more I'd like to try and block TBB, Link or Darkstone to test the Summoner theory.
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Post by girathon on Jan 21, 2015 15:33:01 GMT
Here is how I see it. We have 2 major problems. 1 is MSU, because cop is an obvious problem. 2 is Darq, because dragging a dragon should be obvious. We got lucky he misread so bad, giving us the probable doc.
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Post by fredsadragon on Jan 21, 2015 15:39:49 GMT
An outed cop and dragger are easily discredited once outed, and if the dragger is neutral they begin to be less boisterous as the game goes on. It doesn't appear that the Summoner is the "SK" per say but a serial attacker possibly.
I do think Darq needs to be neutralized eventually but it seems like he was trying to out the SK not the Mafia which may have led to his overexuberance, he's savvy enough to see how the attrition plays out.
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Post by adamical on Jan 21, 2015 16:42:17 GMT
I think we may need to NK Darq, depending on how he plays moving forward.
Actions: JRS4: janitor JackofHearts Girathon: block [TheBoyBlunder?? The Darkstone??] adamical: RT MSU Fredwood: doctor Girathon, frame [dbauers? sstralkowski?]
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Post by fredsadragon on Jan 21, 2015 17:30:19 GMT
Janitor jack Rt MSU Frame darkstone Md Darq
If we are worried about the drag that much then we should actually md him and see how he actually plays the role.
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Post by girathon on Jan 21, 2015 17:41:46 GMT
I think we accidentally set this folder on fire.
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Post by girathon on Jan 21, 2015 17:43:22 GMT
In seriousness, I'm fine with that with the note I'm probably getting blocked tonight.
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Post by adamical on Jan 21, 2015 17:44:21 GMT
I think we accidentally set this folder on fire. Lol. The way I'm reading the roles, I think Fredwood gets to both doctor and frame. Do we think MSU is likely to cop Darkstone? No idea. Is it better to MD a neutral dragger that can probably win with us or to block a probable townie?
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Post by blooddragonjrs4 on Jan 21, 2015 17:54:04 GMT
Janitor jack Rt MSU Frame darkstone Md Darq If we are worried about the drag that much then we should actually md him and see how he actually plays the role. I'm good with these actions. If we fail on the MD isn't necessarily going to be a bad thing.
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Post by adamical on Jan 21, 2015 17:58:50 GMT
JRS4: janitor jackofhearts Girathon: MD Darq adamical: RT MSU Fredwood: Doctor Girathon, frame darkstone
Are these our actions?
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Post by fredsadragon on Jan 21, 2015 17:59:55 GMT
I think we accidentally set this folder on fire. Lol. The way I'm reading the roles, I think Fredwood gets to both doctor and frame. Do we think MSU is likely to cop Darkstone? No idea. Is it better to MD a neutral dragger that can probably win with us or to block a probable townie? If Im a cop Darkstone, JSR4, Linkor, You and then me are my order of suspicion at this moment. So it's literally just my take on how I'd play a cop in this situation. Is MSU likely to try and target Darkstone I don't know, but I would so I'm willing to take that chance to discredit him without actually MDing him. Personally I think there's a good chance that Darkstone is the vig and Linkor is our blocker. As to the MD vs Block, I think we need to get a sense of how Darq will play it, there's a measure of protection involved while also leaving it open to see how he'll play it. If he keeps outing who he dragged then he'll have to go. The problem I see is that he outed himself so early he has no way but to play it town at this point. I assume I can only do one or the other, I guess Stranger will have to confirm if I can do both.
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Post by fredsadragon on Jan 21, 2015 18:01:45 GMT
JRS4: janitor jackofhearts Girathon: MD Darq adamical: RT MSU Fredwood: Doctor Girathon, frame darkstone Are these our actions? Yes...unless we can't do both, personally I'd rather take the chance on framing Darkstone if we can. I don't think vig is likely to target Girathon tonight with Jack backing him.
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Post by blooddragonjrs4 on Jan 21, 2015 18:44:59 GMT
I agree with the Frame over doctor.
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Post by adamical on Jan 21, 2015 18:49:09 GMT
I still read it as we can do both. Notice how girathon's role specifically says he can misdirect instead of block, but Fredwood's role doesn't have an equivalent "instead" clause. But we can put the frame first.
The thing I'm worried about are attacks. But I don't even know if the doctor protects from those or not.
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